Re:waking/dream and Deep sleep
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• April 6, 2000
Dear Bhagavatha, Let me share my knowledge about the topic in question from visista-advaita point of view:- Before going into the topic let me point out the nature of jiva in the aspect of it being a Knower or gnaatr. The Jiva atman has gnanam or consciousness as its essential(Dharmi) or substantive nature, which is the implication of the term "I".This is self luminous and hence is self revealed.This nature also qualifies it as being a "Knower" or "Pratyagatman". The Jiva also has consciousness as its eternal attribute,which can only show objects to the jiva it is connected with,but cannot know unlike the jiva,who is a knower.This attributive consciousness is called Dharmabhuta gnanam.By this the knower can know objects which include prakriti(objects of material nature),the jiva himself(as in self realization),other jivas and the paramaatman(in the state of moksha). It is to be noted that attributive consciousness which is a dravya or substance in itself is subjected to modifications due to forces of karma in bondage and the substantive consciousness is never capable of being modified either in bondage or release. A typical conscious entity is compared to sun and its rays,fire and its flame in the upanishads and Bhagavad geetha. Now,coming to the three states of consciousness with the above understanding of the self:- 1.Waking state :- Here Dharmabhuta gnanam,which is the attribute of the self revealed knower, flows through the different senses starting from manas in the realm of prakriti and contacts various objects existing independent of the mind and illumines both the object and itself, and the knower in question knows this. 2. Dream state :- Here Dharmabhuta gnanam is withdrawn(or modified) towards the knower to the extent that it illumines the mind.Here the knower knows all the objects created by the mind due to forces of karma,which is under the control of the lord. 3. Deep sleep :- Here Dharmabhuta gnanam is modified to such an extent by Tamas a quality of prakriti,that the knower does not know anything or there is no act of knowing. It is to be noted that the "I" is continuous(permanent) and unchanging in all these three states of consciousness based on ones own experience and the authority of scriptures. I hope the above analysis satisfies the questions of Mr.Kvardar. Sri krishnaarpanamasthu Suresh B.N. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Save up to 57% on Electronics! Find incredible deals on overstocked items with Free shipping! http://click.egroups.com/1/2710/2/_/716111/_/955046107/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information