Re: waking/dream/deep-sleep
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• April 3, 2000
Hi, We hear about our acharya's have anubhavams of Perumal and Thayar coming to their dreams and guiding them. Is it that they get darshans in Deep sleep and able to feel the presence of divinity around them, whilst all others tend to be in deep sleep as you had mentioned? Dasan, Maniappan. Mani Varadarajan Wrote: Since no one has volunteered an answer, I thought I'd take a crack at it. Kasturi Varadarajan writes: > > Dear friends, > I am looking for a good analysis of the states of waking, dream and > deep sleep as understood in Ramanuja's system of thought. Hi Kasturi, In these three stages, there is an inverse progression of awareness. (a) In the waking state, the jIva is aware of things both inside and outside. Its mental faculties are aware and able to perceive internal objects, and he is also aware of the external world around him by virtue of its senses. (b) While dreaming, the jIva is oblivious to the external world but aware of the internal world. These internal experiences, in Ramanuja's philosophy, are not "random". They are yet another manifestation of one's karma, and the objects within the mind are not illusory -- they are very real objects in a different plane of consciousness created by God in accordance with some aspect of the jIva's karma. The text cited as an authority here is from the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad (jyotir brahmana?) where it is said "sa hi kartA" -- "He is the maker (of these objects in the dreams)." (c) In deep sleep, the only thing that the jIva is aware of is the notion of "I" that constitutes the essence of its very being. It is neither aware of other internal objects nor any external, material objects. The same conscious jIva persists in deep sleep with no consciuosness of anything other than itself. In this state of deep sleep, the Brahma-Sutras state that the jIva is even unaware of the fact it is being embraced by God (Brahman). Deep sleep is of utmost importance to the embodied jIva because it is a way for Brahman, unbeknownst to the jIva, to refresh the jIva as it goes through its daily toils through samsAra. This is why, it is explained, after a good night's sleep, one is thoroughly refreshed and able to take on yet another day in this world. ramanuja dasan, Mani - SrImate raamaanujaaya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information ______________________________________________________________________ To send a voice email to any email address, go to http://www.shoutmail.com/cgi-bin/instant2.pl Shoutmail.com, telephone access to your email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ @Backup- Protect and Access your data any time, any where on the net. Try @Backup FREE and recieve 300 points from mypoints.com Install now: http://click.egroups.com/1/2345/2/_/716111/_/954796133/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list@eGroups.com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information
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