Re: [correct vs. apaurushEya]
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M.S.HARI • Sun Apr 02 2000 - 21:30:33 PDT
Dear Shree Kasturi Varadarajan, I read your mail regarding Veda as authority. I think you are little confused with the order in logic. The veda cannot be taken as autority based on its correctness alone. Its apporusheyatva (unauthored nature) is the aspect which confirms its correctness. Further, it is without begining-middle-end. It is Annadi (without begining). The Un-Veda cannot be argued as it is not present and its existence is not a reality. To state the qualities of the Veda, it has 1.Apporusheyatva 2.Aanaaditva 3.Swayam Artha Pratipaadana Sakhi (It has capacity to impart its meaning by itself) 4.Nirdhoshatva (Without any fault/mistakes) 5.Swata-Praamaanya (By virtue it is authority) For better understanding, I suggest you reading of Raamaanujaa's Vedaartha Samgraha regarding this. Even in the Poorva Meemaamsaa, Jaimini has established these aspects for the Veda. Thanks & Regards M.S.HARI ============================================================ Kasturi Varadarajan
Dear friends, I had the impression that visistAdvaita philisophy (and vedAnta in general) seem to rest, among other things, on two premises: 1. The veda is apaurushEya (un-authored and beginningless), and 2. The veda is correct. But it appears to me that the first premise is redundant. For is it not possible that there exists a similar body (say un-veda) which is also apaurushEya (un-authored and beginningless) but completely incorrect? So the fact that something is apaurushEya says nothing about its correctness. On the other hand the second premise, that the veda is correct, is in itself sufficient justification for it to serve as pramANa. So only the second premise is needed to develop the philisophy. Please note: a. I have not argued that the veda is not apaurushEya, but only that this premise is not strictly necessary. b. I have not said that such a thing as the un-veda exists, but only that its existence cannot be denied a-priori. c. My main question is whether my impression is incorrect. That is, is there some important tenet of visistAdvaita for which the first premise is necessary and the second is not sufficient. d. In a debate between a vedAntin and a non-vedAntin, the first might say `Look, veda is more authoritative than your scripture because veda is apaurushEya'. I don't think such an arguement has any power when the non-vedAntin is anyway not going to accept the veda as authority. e. I have a good reason for trying to make this arguement and I'm not being flippant. Also no offence is meant. Please tolerate these views as coming from one who basically believes in visistAdvaita but is trying to undertsand it. krishNArpaNam Kasturi
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