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• November 11, 1999
Anand wrote: > As far as adiyEn's knowledge goes, thennAchArya > sampradAyam counts the 4000 pAsurams, without the > inclusion of SrI amudhanAr's "rAmAnuja nootrandAdi". > But, adiyEn knows for sure that the vadagalai-AchArya > sampradAyam counts the 4000 pAsurams with its inclusion. > > adiyEn requests for clarification in this issue, with > respect to the count recognized by thennAchArya sampradAyam. You are correct. According to Appillai, a disciple of Sri Manavaala Maamunigal, the "iraamanusa nooRRandhaadhi" of Amudanaar is stricly not part of the enumerated 4000 verses of the Divya Prabandham. This is because of an alternate way of counting the verses of Siriya Thirumadal and Periya Thirumadal. Strictly speaking, as per Tamil poetics they should be counted as one verse each. However, our acharyas have ingeniously counted them in other ways as well. Sri Vedanta Desika enumerates these as 40 and 78 "songs" respectively in his Prabandha Saaram. In the other "school" of counting, they are counted in terms of couplets, in which case it is 77.5 and 148.5 couplets respectively. If we follow Desika and take them as 40 and 78 songs each, we have to add the 108 songs of iraamaanusa nooRRandhaadhi to make a round 4000 songs. This is what Desika does, and this is why the Vadagalai tradition considers the iraamaanusa nooRRandhaadhi part of the Iyarpa. If we follow Appillai and count couplets, we can arrive at 4000 without the iraamaanusa nooRRandhaadhi, and consequently this poem is considered an appendix to the entire 4000, and not part of the Iyarpa. If we count the madals as one song each, as Puttur Krishnaswamy Iyengar does in a recent publication, we arrive short of the count of 4000. However, traditionally, such counts need not be exact, just as the 1102 songs of Nammalvar are regularly declared to by "aayiram" or 1000. So even though we fall short of 4000, calling them the "4000 songs" is still acceptable. When Sri Sadagopan writes that > MM however ruled that the centum devoted to his dear AchArya > RaamAnujA should be part of the 4000 count and followed the > adhyayana niyamam for this prabhandham in line with the practise > for the other Prabhandhams . it should be understood that the "iraamaanusa nooRRandhaadhi", while perhaps not in the *count* of the 4000, is treated on an equal level. All Sri Vaishnavas recite the iraamaanusa nooRRandhaadhi immediately following the "periya thirumadal", on the last day of the adhyayana series. In addition, during the "an-adhyayana" period, just as the paasurams of the Alvars are not recited, iraamaanusa nooRRandhaadhi is also not recited. So the difference between Desika's and Appillai's traditions are merely enumerations, and nothing else. This is the point of Maamunigal. Mani
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