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M.G.Vasudevan • July 19, 2002 


Dear srivaishnava perunthagaiyeer, 

Thanks to sriman Venkatesan, Sriman Visu and Sriman Narasimhan for their
very good comments. 

What I wanted to focus is meimmai peruvaarththai as a whole. After reading
Sri Venkatesan's mail I get it that meimmai has a focus on its own and peru
vaarththai has its own and combining these words in a single phrase has its
own significance.

As sri anbil mama has said the chariot - garuda amsam- perhaps that is the
reason once my krishna got down after the war is over, it simply went in
flames. For it received so many baaNams during the war, it should have gone
in flames thath kshanamE. Since  the jagat rakshakan is sitting in it and
that too he sitting in the driver's seat, these baaNams could not do any
thing. Also garudan the "chariot roopa vaahanam" for the lord, he can not be
done with any harm by these baaNams. But once he got down there is no more
need for the garudan to be there. Once garudan left, so the jadap porul
chariot going up in flames is quite logical.

See this thEr is described as dheivath thEr. Raamaanuja nooRRanthaadhi which
is treated as part of 4000 prabhandham has this to say in verse 68

"maayan anRu aiver dheivath thErinil seppiya geethaiyin semmaip poruL"

the chariot is dheivath thEr- dheivam krishNan Erina thEr- my lord krishna
mounted this chariot and drove it - so it is dheivath thEr.

Garudan- vEdha swaroopi - vEdham dheivaththin moochchu - krishNa's breath -
vEdhamE dheivam - vEdhamE garudan - garudanE intha thEr - so also this is
dheivath thEr.

Incidentally this is also one more reference for geetha being referred in
4000 prabhandham apart from what has come out in the list so far.

Semmaip porul - meimmaip peruvaarththai - oh great krishna your words -
interpreted by the great aachaarya - raamanuja -  a 100 anthaadhi in his
praise - a reference to your words - oh krishna - 

Nothing more comes out for the present to the mind and hand - because of the
high emotions.

Dhasan

 Vasudevan m.g. 

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	TCA Venkatesan [SMTP:vtca@yahoo.com]
	Sent:	Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:05 AM
	To:	bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com
	Subject:	re: meimmai peruvaarththai

	Dear Sriman Vasudevan,
	I think the key word here is not just "meimmai" but "peru
vArththai". Everything that comes out of the Lord's mouth is nothing but
meimmai. The fact that Sri Andal talks about a certain peru vArththai is the
reason that it is identified with Carama Sloka - it is one vArththai and it
is a monumental one.  Otherwise Andal could have said meimmai vArththaikaL.
	As far as the flag issue goes, Sri Anbil Swami had mentioned that
Garuda was present as the chariot and not in the flag. It would make sense
that since Sri Krishna's vahana is Garuda, he would become the chariot for
his Lord. As Periyazhvar is considered Garuda's amsam, Andal had said that
Periyazhvar had listened to the meimmai peru vArththai.
	The above is adiyEn's rambling and I look forward to bhAgavatas
notes on the same. adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan
	TCA Venkatesan 
	


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